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Post by Chris on Aug 21, 2017 1:11:43 GMT -8
They would have to be since fire kills Wights and the White Walkers seem to snuff it out, who would be able to use a forge, not even sure how they make their Armor but someone does. my thoughts exactly. and boy, that Night King sure has a good arm! (RIP) beautiful brave Viserion. Hello Terrifying Ice Dragon!!I am vindicated, not the Ice Dragon in pure form, but close enough, I said it how many seasons back before anyone else would even contemplate it, I look at Youtube and I see so many now stating they called it. You all know better.
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Post by Little LA on Aug 21, 2017 4:17:42 GMT -8
my thoughts exactly. and boy, that Night King sure has a good arm! (RIP) beautiful brave Viserion. Hello Terrifying Ice Dragon!! I am vindicated, not the Ice Dragon in pure form, but close enough, I said it how many seasons back before anyone else would even contemplate it, I look at Youtube and I see so many now stating they called it. You all know better. We do know better. It was in Season two.
LOVE your synopsis of last night's episode. Jon will have children with Dani. Arya will hopefully kill LF next week!
Getting ready for our TOTAL Eclipse. LOL It's supposed to be cloudy here today, but not along the coast. As luck would have it..... that's where we live. Hope everyone get's a peek today.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 21, 2017 5:24:55 GMT -8
Great write up Chris! Yes, the Night's King should have slipped in the water and touched Viserion. Viserion could have flown out of the water after he was reanimated. Producing 5,000 lbs of chain in the middle of no where was really, sorry to say, stupid. Time travel is one thing, 5,000 lbs of chain is another.
The fellowship traded a Wight for Viserion, not a good trade. What makes it worse, Cersei will refuse to believe and suspend the war.
That aside I still love the show.
I forgot to give a RIP to Uncle Benjen!!
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 21, 2017 8:45:28 GMT -8
who was it that was lying dead that that dead bear killed? there was a body, but I can't figure out who it was..
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 21, 2017 9:10:43 GMT -8
who was it that was lying dead that that dead bear killed? there was a body, but I can't figure out who it was.. When they left Eastwatch, they had several extra Wildling's with them. One got taken out by the Bear and another fell off the edge of the large rock into the Wights.
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Post by Chris on Aug 21, 2017 10:08:55 GMT -8
who was it that was lying dead that that dead bear killed? there was a body, but I can't figure out who it was.. When they left Eastwatch, they had several extra Wildling's with them. One got taken out by the Bear and another fell off the edge of the large rock into the Wights.Extra Wildlings are Red Shirts
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 21, 2017 10:10:52 GMT -8
who was it that was lying dead that that dead bear killed? there was a body, but I can't figure out who it was.. When they left Eastwatch, they had several extra Wildling's with them. One got taken out by the Bear and another fell off the edge of the large rock into the Wights. that's what I thought, but they didn't show them before their death as far as I saw..
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Post by Chris on Aug 21, 2017 10:35:17 GMT -8
When they left Eastwatch, they had several extra Wildling's with them. One got taken out by the Bear and another fell off the edge of the large rock into the Wights. that's what I thought, but they didn't show them before their death as far as I saw..They were the ones pulling the sled until the blizzard hit and then Jon must have sent one out as point man, makes sense since Wildlings are better in the snow and all, but it was also kind of bait as well.
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 21, 2017 14:01:05 GMT -8
ok thanks..
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 21, 2017 17:25:41 GMT -8
I just wish Arya would have enough patience to give her sister a chance. I think they could learn to trust each other and work together for their families best interests. it would be nice if they could be sister/friends after all they have been through, family comfort would be good for them..
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Post by Chris on Aug 21, 2017 21:33:08 GMT -8
They have to deal with The Littlefucker first, Weasel of Winterfell, with the information that was set up for Arya and seeing how Sansa betrayed the Starks not once, not twice but three times. First with the Butcher Boy incident, second with the letter to Robb, and then being on the podium. Third supporting the Lannisters over her family where she would have died first. Just as Ned died thinking he was going to protect his family. Arya has seen and heard a lot of the planning and backstabbing concerning her family, while at Harranhall seeing Littlefinger show up supporting the Lannisters as well. I really do think he is baiting her with his network of spies she was watching. But I also think she was allowing herself to be watched and overheard, Arya isn't that dumb and blindly coerced at this point.
Now this is where we get into The Good, The Bad , and the Ugly, Sansa also knows she is being played by Littlefinger, she is also playing the situation knowing that Littlefinger also has spies everywhere, and that he is trying to manipulate Arya and Breinne as well as herself. She knows Arya is dangerous as a fighter and I do think she is unaware of what a Faceless Man is, she is still playing catch up with the rest of being in Power, however Ned knew about them, way back in season one when Robert was wanting Dani dead the Faceless men were mentioned I think by Varys and the question of price came up. Ned and Robert were there as well as Littlefinger and Maester Pyrcell. Sansa playing her game, Arya playing her game and of course Littlefinger believing he is playing both. The wild card is Bran, Sansa knows his abilities now and I think is talking to him, just not on screen, I would bet after the conversation with Arya in her room and concerning the faces Sansa also asked Bran about her.
So the game is being played three ways, why Sansa is acting different, Arya out of character and Littlefinger so smug and sneaky. I think Littlefinger would assume the swordplay which surprised him and scared him from Arya was attributed to her continued training started by Ned, if he has any suspicions of anything else I know he has to have had his spies scurrying everywhere to find out why she is so resourceful. It will be hard to find out any real information without paying a price. The Faceless men would want something for any information especially one of their own.
The payoff should be interesting and I hope it isn't hurried and cheapened to much. That's what I am putting together after re-watches and roleplaying their positions. If not it is really wasted writing and acting that could have been used much better as far as the story goes.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 22, 2017 6:07:55 GMT -8
They have to deal with The Littlefucker first, Weasel of Winterfell, with the information that was set up for Arya and seeing how Sansa betrayed the Starks not once, not twice but three times. First with the Butcher Boy incident, second with the letter to Robb, and then being on the podium. Third supporting the Lannisters over her family where she would have died first. Just as Ned died thinking he was going to protect his family. Arya has seen and heard a lot of the planning and backstabbing concerning her family, while at Harranhall seeing Littlefinger show up supporting the Lannisters as well. I really do think he is baiting her with his network of spies she was watching. But I also think she was allowing herself to be watched and overheard, Arya isn't that dumb and blindly coerced at this point. Now this is where we get into The Good, The Bad , and the Ugly, Sansa also knows she is being played by Littlefinger, she is also playing the situation knowing that Littlefinger also has spies everywhere, and that he is trying to manipulate Arya and Breinne as well as herself. She knows Arya is dangerous as a fighter and I do think she is unaware of what a Faceless Man is, she is still playing catch up with the rest of being in Power, however Ned knew about them, way back in season one when Robert was wanting Dani dead the Faceless men were mentioned I think by Varys and the question of price came up. Ned and Robert were there as well as Littlefinger and Maester Pyrcell. Sansa playing her game, Arya playing her game and of course Littlefinger believing he is playing both. The wild card is Bran, Sansa knows his abilities now and I think is talking to him, just not on screen, I would bet after the conversation with Arya in her room and concerning the faces Sansa also asked Bran about her. So the game is being played three ways, why Sansa is acting different, Arya out of character and Littlefinger so smug and sneaky. I think Littlefinger would assume the swordplay which surprised him and scared him from Arya was attributed to her continued training started by Ned, if he has any suspicions of anything else I know he has to have had his spies scurrying everywhere to find out why she is so resourceful. It will be hard to find out any real information without paying a price. The Faceless men would want something for any information especially one of their own. The payoff should be interesting and I hope it isn't hurried and cheapened to much. That's what I am putting together after re-watches and roleplaying their positions. If not it is really wasted writing and acting that could have been used much better as far as the story goes. Chris, you have figured it out perfectly. D&D are building to LF's end. We know for sure Arya is no longer naive and Sansa learned her lessons well from Cersei and LF. You add in Bran and his visions, they all three know the game and they are setting a trap and LF has fallen into it this time and there won't be any escape. I'm no writer, but I would have played and written this differently.
They have expected book readers and long time show watchers to believe Arya and Sansa would fall for LF's manipulation. The fans aren't that naive either. We all know at this point neither of these girls would be used and fooled that easily.
They could have written it in a way that still would have shown a game, a manipulation, but having Arya, Sansa and Bran pulling the strings. That scenerio would have played much better with the audience. Several big writing mistakes this season.
At the end of the day, LittleF**ker's story has come to it's end. He started out manipulating the Tully's and the Stark's and he will be ended by his beloved Cat's children. I may not like how it was written, but I will cheer when Arya, Sansa and Bran settle the score.
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 27, 2017 9:11:16 GMT -8
Sansa may have sent Brienne away so that she wouldn't be there to protect Arya. She and Little Finger may be plotting to kill her and wanted Brienne out of the way. Sansa seems afraid enough of Arya..
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 27, 2017 11:08:41 GMT -8
Sansa may have sent Brienne away so that she wouldn't be there to protect Arya. She and Little Finger may be plotting to kill her and wanted Brienne out of the way. Sansa seems afraid enough of Arya. It would be scary as hell to find faces in your sister's luggage and then have her tell you she is a Faceless Man.....Sansa has very good reason to fear Arya's abilities.
I think they want us to believe Sansa is working with LF, but after all LF did to the Starks, and Bran must know that by now and told Sansa and maybe even Arya. All three of them will want him dead to pay for his betrayal of both their parents, Sansa and ultimately causing all that has befallen their family.
Just my opinion, but I think LF is screwed.........We will know for sure in 6 hours. Small tear rolling down cheek... One more season in the can.....
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Post by cricket48750 on Aug 28, 2017 6:27:56 GMT -8
Sansa may have sent Brienne away so that she wouldn't be there to protect Arya. She and Little Finger may be plotting to kill her and wanted Brienne out of the way. Sansa seems afraid enough of Arya. It would be scary as hell to find faces in your sister's luggage and then have her tell you she is a Faceless Man.....Sansa has very good reason to fear Arya's abilities.
I think they want us to believe Sansa is working with LF, but after all LF did to the Starks, and Bran must know that by now and told Sansa and maybe even Arya. All three of them will want him dead to pay for his betrayal of both their parents, Sansa and ultimately causing all that has befallen their family.
Just my opinion, but I think LF is screwed.........We will know for sure in 6 hours. Small tear rolling down cheek... One more season in the can.....
Screwed indeed! LOL
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