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Post by Little LA on Apr 15, 2019 4:53:24 GMT -8
Episode 1 It was great! Jon and Arya's reunion was so worth the wait. They were so thrilled to see each other. He was as happy as we were to see that she still had Needle. For a moment we could forget what she has become. He will always be a part of her pack. The writers really made a point of stressing Ned's words about the "lone wolf dying". Who's the lone wolf?
Sansa will blame herself for the little Umber boy being killed and mutilated by the WW. Mance stated they are always the artists. That body parts pinwheel is terrible art! I get that it derives from the Children of the Forest, but damn!
Brann's a force. He remains so calm and yet everyone knows that he knows everything. You'd think he would have a cast of thousands listening to his every word. The closing scene of Jaime arriving and Brann being the first person he sees. Jaime almost looks like he is happy to see him. Next week should be great. I hope he doesn't creep Jaime out too much.
And Sam's reaction to the death of his mean ass dad really makes clear why everyone likes Sam.
Cersei and Euron deserve each other. Qyburn and his creation deserve each other too! LOL
Theon finally is redeemed in his sister's eyes. That was so great to see him save her!
The dragons flying with riders was incredible! Wonder how Dani is going to feel when she finds out that she is NOT the true ruler of the seven kingdoms? Hmmmmmm. Bet Jon does not do the telling. But Sam had a point. Jon would not have killed Lord Randall Tarley and his son for not bending the knee. He would make a better Ruler. Loads better.
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Post by Desert Woman on Apr 15, 2019 6:31:08 GMT -8
Loved it! Will write more in a bit. Getting up to watch again
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Post by Stark Wolf on Apr 15, 2019 6:51:00 GMT -8
Very mixed emotions!! Now we only have 5 more episodes!! I am so mad at myself, but Sansa is really getting on my nerves. They have made her way to important. I loved all of the meet-ups. Arya and Jon, still have those special feelings, he may freak when he see's what she is. Arya and Gendry, he was making goo goo eyes at Arya. Arya wants a secret weapon made? She has plans cooking in that mind of hers, Killing the wicked witch of the South maybe??? I was a little disappointed in the Hound and Arya. I was hoping he would at least smile and say glad to see you made it. I hope later they smile and laugh together, Arya has to realize he did keep her safe to the best of his harsh ability.
Jon riding Rhaegal made me giggle! He was sliding all over the place and looked scared to death in the beginning, but we could also see how awesome he thought it was by the end of the ride. Got to keep one eye open while kissing Dany, cause who wants Drogon mad at them. LOL !! Drogon's reaction was so cute....Jon's meet with Sam started just like their first meet ever, Sam stumbling around. They were so happy to see each other again, it was heartwarming. Sam just blurted out the news. Poor Jon/Aegon that is one heavy load of info to process. We know our Jon/Aegon, he may not be able to continue a Lover relationship with his Aunty!! Add to that executing Sam's dad and brother, oops, not good!!! There is only ONE person in the whole story who has never coveted power or being a leader, Jon/Aegon. If there is a Iron Throne at the end of this saga, Jon/Aegon is the best man for the job without question.
So whats new, we are going to have our usual time travel, Tormund, Edd and the crew will make it to Winterfell before the Army of the Dead, even if the have half a days head start. Why change now, right!!! Another giggle when Tormund says, my eyes were always blue. Ned Umber doesn't count on the Dead Pool....
Cersei is also getting on my nerves, but I don't feel one bit bad about it. So over her superior attitude. Wah wah, Cersei won't get her elephants. Time for Cersei and Euron to bite the dust. So Cersei is giving two chests of gold to Bronn to kill both her brothers with Joffrey's cross bow that Tyrion used to kill Tywin. Cersei is a mental disease!!! OK, bets are on!!! Will Bronn really try to kill his two best buds???
Theon has done some horrible things, he has paid a high price, glad he was finally able to gain respect of his people and save his sister. So proud, he wants to fight along side Jon/Aegon.
Jamie went straight to Winterfell, no stops at Riverrun. We probably won't be seeing Edmure this season. Jamie finally had to face the devil... The boy he pushed to near death for his monster sister. He looked like he was going to shit himself.
One last thought, Dorne still has an army, even if their leaders are all dead. Yara needs to sail there and bring them North....
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Post by Little LA on Apr 15, 2019 13:30:27 GMT -8
Hi Missy M, I don't believe Bronn will kill his two best buds. Even though he can sound so greedy at times. And he is pissed that he does not own a castle. Tyrion has always told him that "whatever you are offered - I will pay more!!!" And I believe him. LOL But...where will Tyrion get the money???
You are right about the meet up with the Hound - it did not go at all as I envisioned. Very disappointing. Perhaps they will fix that for us Marilyn.
Only 5 more. Oh no Mr. Bill. What are we to do???
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Post by Stark Wolf on Apr 15, 2019 14:53:04 GMT -8
Hi Missy M, I don't believe Bronn will kill his two best buds. Even though he can sound so greedy at times. And he is pissed that he does not own a castle. Tyrion has always told him that "whatever you are offered - I will pay more!!!" And I believe him. LOL But...where will Tyrion get the money???
You are right about the meet up with the Hound - it did not go at all as I envisioned. Very disappointing. Perhaps they will fix that for us Marilyn.
Only 5 more. Oh no Mr. Bill. What are we to do???
Hey LA, I've been out reading articles today, they are warning that all the rest of the episodes will be deadly, have Kleenex handy. Shoot, I cried when Jon and Arya hugged, I will be a mess when people we love start dieing for real!!!!
I agree, Bronn can keep Cersei's money and keep his buds too!! Cersei will be a very long way away, whats she gona do about it?? Bronn's going to have other more pressing matters if he gets to Winterfell. More teleporting maybe...LOL!!
This afternoon I got to thinking how mobile the Knight King is having a dragon. He could just take a run down to KL while the army is marching burn half of KL and return to the Winterfell fight.That would take the smug look off Cersei's face. LOL !!
Darn, 5 weeks is going to fly by. We will be devastated!!!!!!! It will take me all summer to recover.....
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Post by Desert Woman on Apr 16, 2019 9:22:53 GMT -8
every time I write a post, I get interrupted and have to start over lol!
I loved all the reunions! Jon and Arya was the sweetest ever! She sure made clear her loyalty to her family. it was nice to hear her speak so highly of her sister. I wasn't buying the tough guy act between Arya and the hound. you know they really wanted to hug. He just believes so strongly that that toughness is what you need to survive. I bet we see it breakdown at some point.
Time for Jamie to pay the piper, for what he did for love. love? couldn't be..
Cersei and Euron. all I can say is YUK!!! I think she just needed a new daddy for her baby. it's part of some kind of scheme of her's.
Can't wait to hear more about the Stark/Winterfell secrets down in the cripts..
Good for Theon. To b e redeemed in his sister's eyes and have her love and approval after everything must mean everything. Bloody battles ahead. this episode was a nice reprieve..
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Post by Stark Wolf on Apr 16, 2019 9:36:36 GMT -8
every time I write a post, I get interrupted and have to start over lol!
I loved all the reunions! Jon and Arya was the sweetest ever! She sure made clear her loyalty to her family. it was nice to hear her speak so highly of her sister. I wasn't buying the tough guy act between Arya and the hound. you know they really wanted to hug. He just believes so strongly that that toughness is what you need to survive. I bet we see it breakdown at some point.
Time for Jamie to pay the piper, for what he did for love. love? couldn't be..
Cersei and Euron. all I can say is YUK!!! I think she just needed a new daddy for her baby. it's part of some kind of scheme of her's.
Can't wait to hear more about the Stark/Winterfell secrets down in the cripts..
Good for Theon. To b e redeemed in his sister's eyes and have her love and approval after everything must mean everything. Bloody battles ahead. this episode was a nice reprieve.. Good to hear form you DW. Hope all is going as well as possible. I keep sending prayers. Hope the show is a nice distraction....
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Post by Desert Woman on Apr 16, 2019 10:37:46 GMT -8
Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. Yes, the show is a wonderful distraction and this episode was everything I hoped for.
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Post by Little LA on Apr 16, 2019 13:42:48 GMT -8
So grateful that you have this to think about. I want to thank you for doing this for us. I know you are an awesome friend.
Another thing to mull over is: what about those ice spiders??? Hope we get to see some. If for no other reason than it appears we won't be seeing wolves. Also DW, when this season is over, we still have WESTWORLD!! Yippeeee
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Post by Desert Woman on Apr 16, 2019 13:54:43 GMT -8
So grateful that you have this to think about. I want to thank you for doing this for us. I know you are an awesome friend.
Another thing to mull over is: what about those ice spiders??? Hope we get to see some. If for no other reason than it appears we won't be seeing wolves. Also DW, when this season is over, we still have WESTWORLD!! Yippeeee Yes. I really enjoy westworld! Have you heard anything about when it will return? We should get a few more seasons out of it at least. I hope we do get to see wolves..
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2019 19:06:27 GMT -8
Ok, here we go.
The arrival, lots of call backs that I don't need to get into because we all have seen them and know them for what they were.
Arya seeing those she had traveled with in The Hound and Gendry was cool to see as she showed emotion, seeing Jon and smiling was another great moment, eyeballing Dany well that's little Sister protecting big brother and also Family distrust of her due to several murders of her family by her father. Her eyes in awe of the Dragons was cool to see however.
Reunions, Reunions, lets just get all of them out of the way.
Jon and Bran, Jon wrapping his arms around Bran and kissing his head probably showed more happiness up to that point then Jon showed in 7 seasons, saying your a Man and Brans response with not quite put him aback and Sansa's sideline look / smirk was kind of a set up for the rest of the episode, the I know more then you Jon Snow.
Jon and Arya, this is complicated, Arya was very happy but guarded as well, she didn't divulge what she was, she downplayed the use she had made of Needle, her words of warning to Jon as remember that were also telling, she supported Sansa without question. Again protecting Sansa, the North, and her feelings I think, she is distrustful of Dany right now and she will not be swayed by her brothers Love for her. But I really liked that reunion on how it played out. Arya is the protector of the North no question. Even when they were introduced and Jon had asked Sansa where Arya was and she replied Lurking that should have set off a series of questions but it didn't.
Jon and Sam, was great to see them reunite, Jon has not had anyone he knows and could trust in his corner since Sam left, I am sure he is relieved to have him there just for the sake of keeping him aware of his path.
Sansa and Tyrion, this was deeper then most say, Sansa has Tyrion's utmost respect, he thinks she has become a very good leader and a very dangerous adversary now,her back handed compliments I think are a tribute for her realizing how good he really was to her and she now respects him probably more then almost any man she has know less her father. Her saying she used to think he was the cleverest man in the Kingdome was very complementary as well as a check yourself and think about it when it came to Cersie. She also said Man not Dwarf or person. Remember she was very much disgusted with his being a Dwarf when they were married. We may see a much closer interaction there later. Sansa has learned the hard way pretty men, men of conquest may be great for stories but not relationships.
Also have they really had their Marriage legally annulled, I am not sure if you could trust the Bolton's and Little Fingers take on it.
Arya and the Hound, he was proud of her, he was being the Hound and they had their typical barbed exchange but it was done with affection if you remember their interactions, she seemed happy he was alive as well. There will be more as we progress I am sure.
Arya and Gendry, this one is one if you watched was Arya and him poking at each other to see if there was something there, remember she had said he would be her family at one point. She was flirting in an Arya way also, she has some desires there.
Bran and Jamie, the stoic Bran seeing Jamie and Jamie looking at him with that holy shit look at then end, this is going to be less impactful then the what appears to be Jamies trial coming up, I think he will be charged with Killing Dany's father, trying to murder Bran, at least.
I think that's all of them.
Now the rest of the Story as Steve Harvey used to say.
The coldness of Sansa to Jon and Dany's arrival is understandable, Sansa didn't want Jon to go and now he has bet the knee, brought back a beautiful Queen that everyone can see he is in love with. She has armies, Dragons and Jon's Heart, Protective sister of Jon, Protective ruler of the North, Jealous female. Sansa has worked hard, learned things the hard way and got to the top, Jon gave it all away in her eyes at this point.
This continues at the meeting in the hall, Sansa had a legitimate concern about feeding everyone, the barb about what do Dragons eat was nicely returned however by Dany with anything the want.
Then the confront with Jon about him leaving and coming back with her, Jon initially gets upset then composes himself, This is the Nightwatch all over again with the Wildings being let thru the wall and Thorne. He is doing what's right and what's needed but people don't want to see the big picture, even his sister who is blinded by her personal feelings as well as Arya unsure right now not to mention the Lord Glover and those in the hall.This will get old as many have said in YouTube vids quickly if not resolved and it won't be any easier when they find out Jon's heritage.
Speaking of, the one reunion I didn't mention, Jorah and Sam.
John Bradley did a masterful performance in that sequence, his ability to show the emotion and impact of both the arrival of Jorah as well as the news of his Father and then his brother dying was fantastic. Have to give Dany credit for telling the truth however. But Sam I don't think will ever be camp Targaryen now and it may be hard for Sam at some point later to align himself there even with Jon with her.
Speaking of that Sam and Jon and the discloser, I think there was going to be now easy way to let Jon know, it was kind of a payback but also Sam was doing what Bran had asked him to do, timing had to be all of shit however, but Sam delivered the message as well as one could expect and had his arguments lined up to Jon's questions which Jon had to accept.
He will be struggling with this, for a bit, the delivery to Dany is going to be a lot harder for her then him though. Basically everything she has worked for is being yanked from under her as well, Jon is King of everything, which wouldn't be bad if was pure Stark or Pure Targaryen, but he is both. The North may issues accepting him as King even if he was raised in the North, the seven Kingdoms will look at him as a Usurper on one side and a traitor on the other for the being a Stark and for what happened with Joffery and Ned getting blamed for a lot of the issues with him supposedly wanting Robert dead so he could have the throne.
However I still think he and Dany marry once there is a Baby announced, not a big deal for Dany, more so for Jon, but not wanting the Baby to be a Bastard wins out and Dany being a Queen and co ruling is better then not having any claim at all.
I mean there was some foretelling going on also the conversation with Tyrion and Vary's saying nothing last forever.
One other foretelling, that cool part of Dany and Jon riding Dragons, I think we saw this coming it was just when. It was fun and Dany had a few laughs at Jon's expense as well when He asked how to ride and what do you hold on too. The ride to the falls was very cool cinematography and CGI, have to hand it to them.
The kiss and the glare from Dany's biggest Child at Jon I thought was great, the one a man would get walking into a house the first time with a Mom and kissing her in front of her children.
The foretelling however, whether it is Jon or Dany saying they could stay there for a 1000 years I think is important in someway, Ice and the Waterfalls, the series has shown history is like a circle or a wheel as Dany has said round and round this one on top and then that one. They could both be there also, Ice Queen and next Nightking since theory thinks he is a Stark.
Arya and her weapon, she is designing weapons now also? Well I can see why it may be a concern, she is small and her weapons small and her tactics are one on one combat not a Battle, she needs reach and we seen how she can handle a staff. One that separates into what looks like a mace on one side and a spear or knife on the other is pretty cool, she will have weapons of reach and short quarters.
However...…. Why doesn't she have a Warriors face or take one ? That would give her the strength and reach needed and her skills would make that one bad ass dude or if Brienne fell how bad ass would she be then.
The other thought, bare with me, what if her plan was to kill the Nightking and take a White walker face, is that even possible?
Euron and Cersie and the Golden Company, ok this was interesting only for the down the road look, Euron needed to be pacified, he is too much of a wild card and Cersie has nobody that can control him and she needs the Ships. However he doesn't know she has a bun in the oven. The Golden Company Commander was less then impressive however, anyone could have done that part, he has to have something going on later.
The fall out from that is, Theon was able to get on the Silence and rescue Yara, the crew can't yell so easy target, Theon getting Yara and then getting her respect and approval to go to the North and help the Starks was redemption from the Greyjoy side. Pity Theon will never make it back.
Second part, Cersie is in a corner now, she needs Euron, Jamie left her which she see's as Treason and Tyrion, well she wanted to kill him anyway, also when Euron said I am putting a Baby in Cersie's belly means she can pass it off as his if she needs to.
The answer is the Sell Sword Bronn, she can buy her silence from all the people that have something on her by paying him to do it and then have the Mountain or Qyburn kill him and get the Gold back.
Now will Bronn actually do it, Gold is one thing, Cersie keeping her word is another and Bronn was friends with both even if he was getting paid. I think he goes up there thinking of doing it but then figures I have the Gold and once he sees what the hell if going to happen says screw it, she will not live if the Nighking gets to her anyway.
Oh last piece I almost forgot, Edd and Tormund at the Last Hearth and finding Ned on the wall with the arrangement of the symbol, I think it's a message to Bran, we are going to burn the Children of the Forest and the Weir Trees, Ned is a Child and the Motes Eye is the Island where the heaviest concentration of Weirwoods are. I think like Bran he has the sight and if he is a Stark can Warg possibly, how he can turn all these dead and control them.
Good episode felt a it rushed but they had to set the stage for the next 5. Glad to see everyone in one place at least for now.
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Post by Little LA on Apr 17, 2019 16:45:01 GMT -8
Arya....White Walker Faceless Man? ?? I can't believe that! I won't believe that! Why won't Theon make it back??? Surely Cersei wouldn't lie about who the father of her child is, would she?? LOL
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Post by Chris on Apr 17, 2019 17:07:54 GMT -8
Arya....White Walker Faceless Man? ?? I can't believe that! I won't believe that! Why won't Theon make it back??? Surely Cersei wouldn't lie about who the father of her child is, would she?? LOL Two reasons I say this, the only way she could get close as an assassin would be to take a White Walker face to use her new weapon to kill him,same if she wanted to get close to Visarion to kill him as well. She has the Cats Paw and now Gendry making this new weapon, her purpose is significant. Her list is a training tool on how to use faces and get close to her targets. Would not be surprised if this was allowed as a set up just as her being allowed to leave the House of Black and white and no contact to date with them.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Apr 18, 2019 6:24:51 GMT -8
I am wondering why Cersei is now drinking wine?? She wouldn't drink wine when she was talking to Tyrion. Did starting into menopause trick Cersei into thinking she is pregnant?? Did she just out and out lie to Jamie to keep him in line?? I guess we will find out soon enough.
Issac has said that Bran now views Jamie's act to push him from the window in a different way. Sounds like he is not holding a grudge. Sam ask Bran what he was doing out there and he said waiting for an old friend. Maybe Bran will offer Jamie forgiveness or at least won't call for his head. To be revealed!
Getting nervous that six episodes can wrap up this story to our satisfaction. When they said all of the six episodes would be 2 hours in length, it sounded possible. Now with none of the episode being 2 hours long nor even 1.5 hours, it makes me wonder?? Trying to stay positive... Can understand and accept characters we love will die, but please give the story a proper ending......
Watched the episode a 3rd time, but nothing new stood out. So, pacing the floor for 8.2 Sunday.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Apr 18, 2019 6:32:10 GMT -8
So grateful that you have this to think about. I want to thank you for doing this for us. I know you are an awesome friend.
Another thing to mull over is: what about those ice spiders??? Hope we get to see some. If for no other reason than it appears we won't be seeing wolves. Also DW, when this season is over, we still have WESTWORLD!! Yippeeee In my reading frenzy, someone said we would see Ghost this season, nothing about Nymeria. I don't know where Ghost has been hiding, but I hope they will tell us??? LOL!!
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