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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 22, 2017 13:37:54 GMT -8
I read most of the Season 8 leaked scripts. It is hard to tell if they are legit. Some of the scenerio's ring true, but some seem a little off. After this season's writing, well maybe these are true scripts after all. It is really hard to tell. Well I can't unread them so I know one version of the ending, weather it is the correct version only next season will tell.
If Season 8 Episode 1 is the same as the leaks, then I will know the rest are probably correct.
I have mixed feelings about reading the last episode myself. I'm not going to say anymore. If anyone else wants to read them I'll give you the site address. i will leave it at that.
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2017 15:08:20 GMT -8
I know it's hard not to click on them, but so much of the fun and joy is to speculate plot lines and what is going to happen, kind of like getting a book and reading the last chapter before you start the first. Some like the journey and can do it anyway, some it loses all the magic knowing how it comes out. I read some of the common knowledge stuff and look at the photos leaked, usually it's a incomplete picture, the Hacked stuff if I know I try to avoid, the YOUTUBE leaked stuff I see with new people posting the Transcripts I avoid as well. Long time YOUTUBERS such as Rawrist, Smokescreen, Because Geek and some others I watch because they want to most pure from of the story and do the speculation as well, I form my thoughts of many of the vids and responses I see there in conjunction with my own based on what I have seen in the show. I share those with all of you.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 22, 2017 16:16:34 GMT -8
I know it's hard not to click on them, but so much of the fun and joy is to speculate plot lines and what is going to happen, kind of like getting a book and reading the last chapter before you start the first. Some like the journey and can do it anyway, some it loses all the magic knowing how it comes out. I read some of the common knowledge stuff and look at the photos leaked, usually it's a incomplete picture, the Hacked stuff if I know I try to avoid, the YOUTUBE leaked stuff I see with new people posting the Transcripts I avoid as well. Long time YOUTUBERS such as Rawrist, Smokescreen, Because Geek and some others I watch because they want to most pure from of the story and do the speculation as well, I form my thoughts of many of the vids and responses I see there in conjunction with my own based on what I have seen in the show. I share those with all of you. You might also enjoy Preston Jacobs and Alt Shift X. I got SamC hooked on them about 4 years back.
Well I have a year to forget what I read, at my age maybe I will. LOL! Probably for the last season it is best to see it as it comes. I knew what would happen until they ran out of book material and that was fine. It hasn't bothered me this season, but knowing the end isn't setting well. Curiosity may kill this cat.........
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Post by Little LA on Aug 24, 2017 14:36:26 GMT -8
*****SPOILERS***** DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN IN THE DARK!
Marilyn, I had to look. I had to.
Stop reading this if you don't want to know the "probable" ending...
I can't believe that GRRM would spend 30 years on this epic story only to have it end with the deaths of Jon and Dany. Leaving a daughter to be raised by Tyrion and the Red Woman. That is not bittersweet. That is bitter bitter! Brann will return again in thousands of years as Bart again?? What the hell??? Well, that part kinda makes sense. Brann can travel in time and warg. Stands to reason he might warg into the night king just as the children plunge in the dragon glass into a Stark, OR Brann was ALWAYS around....Brandon the builder of The Wall. Sansa ends up with Gendry? Sam goes back to his family home. Bronn ends up with the Dornish girl? And everyone else dies??? Including all the dragons and wolves!
George, if that's the tale...no rush on your next book. Truly. I hope this is the show tale and not the book tale.
As Tierna used to say: "Thoughts?" LOL
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 24, 2017 15:14:53 GMT -8
Little LA, I feel your pain. I wish I had not read this stuff. I do want to caution, it is possible they are not legit, I hope they are not.
Now if they are, I must say they may be 50% true to GRRM's ending. We always knew he said bitter sweet, but as you pointed out if this is how it all ends it is all bitter with no sweet at all.
One point that makes me wonder, is it ends very very close to the way, Lord of the Rings, ends. GRRM is a better writer than that. He doesn't need to copy off another very well known author. Point 2, in the show all of the Sand Snakes are dead. Yes, in the books they are all still alive and we don't know their fate. But these scripts are for the show, so where do they find a Sand Snake for Bronn to marry??
Tyrion is supposed to end up with Missandei, Dany's friend. I'm not sure I'm buying that. In fact all of the hook-ups seem way off to me. I don't want to say too much cause I think you and I are the curious cats that peaked. I don't want to ruin anything for all of the other folks. Specially if it is some fan taking advantage.
As I said you can't unread it after you peaked, but I think I will stay away from all Season 8 leaks and hope what I did see is wrong. We know that we will lose some of the people we love, but I sure hope it doesn't go down like we read. LOL! Maybe we will forget by next year...........
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Post by Chris on Aug 24, 2017 21:44:25 GMT -8
The Red Women says she will die in Westeros, not exactly Tyrions type and he does not trust her, she is on Aryas list as well. Not sure I am buying all this, also Gendry and Sansa, another unlikely match up, especially since he has an attraction to Arya. I could see Bronn with Sansa before Gendry actually. He is more Northern then most and he is looking for a wife, stability and a Castle.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 25, 2017 8:33:13 GMT -8
The Red Women says she will die in Westeros, not exactly Tyrions type and he does not trust her, she is on Aryas list as well. Not sure I am buying all this, also Gendry and Sansa, another unlikely match up, especially since he has an attraction to Arya. I could see Bronn with Sansa before Gendry actually. He is more Northern then most and he is looking for a wife, stability and a Castle. You are correct, we can speculate for a year about who ends up together and how it all goes down. That is safe and fun. I plan to forget what I read and pray it is not correct or at least only partially correct.
Speculation is a guessing game or roll of the dice. Till we watch it, it's not real. We can speculate away and wait to see how close we get.......
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Post by Little LA on Aug 25, 2017 15:26:35 GMT -8
The Red Women says she will die in Westeros, not exactly Tyrions type and he does not trust her, she is on Aryas list as well. Not sure I am buying all this, also Gendry and Sansa, another unlikely match up, especially since he has an attraction to Arya. I could see Bronn with Sansa before Gendry actually. He is more Northern then most and he is looking for a wife, stability and a Castle. You are correct, we can speculate for a year about who ends up together and how it all goes down. That is safe and fun. I plan to forget what I read and pray it is not correct or at least only partially correct.
Speculation is a guessing game or roll of the dice. Till we watch it, it's not real. We can speculate away and wait to see how close we get.......
Well, to be honest....I'm combining a few people's versions of what they say may happen. BUT STILL! All of the versions I saw were the pits. But, you are right in that we won't know for quite some time. Right now EVERYONE is guessing.
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 26, 2017 6:19:07 GMT -8
You are correct, we can speculate for a year about who ends up together and how it all goes down. That is safe and fun. I plan to forget what I read and pray it is not correct or at least only partially correct.
Speculation is a guessing game or roll of the dice. Till we watch it, it's not real. We can speculate away and wait to see how close we get.......
Well, to be honest....I'm combining a few people's versions of what they say may happen. BUT STILL! All of the versions I saw were the pits. But, you are right in that we won't know for quite some time. Right now EVERYONE is guessing. We spend years with these characters, between reading the books and watching the series, we are so attached to them and the animals. I'm sure any ending will bother us when it involves losing a character we have lived with for more than 10 years.
Remember reading the Red Wedding? We could just feel something bad was coming, then it starts. I threw the book on the floor and was crying, of course. It literally took me 2 or 3 weeks to finish that chapter and another 2 or 3 weeks to get back to reading at a normal pace again.
The same thing with Lord of the Rings. I was much younger when I read it, but it took me about a month to read the last few chapters. I would start crying and I literally could not see the words.
Ending a long term relationship is hard, even with a book or TV Series. We are odd creatures....
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 26, 2017 11:31:56 GMT -8
Just spent the last 15 minutes reading a rebuttal of the Season 8 script leaks. I had hated what I read in the leaks and I read them really fast. I was so disappointed I have not reread them. But, even in the one fast read through I noticed several things that bothered me and made me question their authenticity. The rebuttal I read by a guy on Reddit showed many errors in how the leaks were written including wording and language. Both of those things also bothered me when I did my reading.
I am feeling much better, I now feel almost positive these leaks are fan fiction.......
Little LA, I hope this makes you feel better as well......
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Post by Little LA on Aug 27, 2017 4:56:02 GMT -8
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Post by Stark Wolf on Aug 27, 2017 5:53:28 GMT -8
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Post by Desert Woman on Aug 27, 2017 7:52:36 GMT -8
yes, thank you to everyone for chatting with me here. it is really nice to have someone to discuss this story with. I chose not to read the leaks. so little episodes left, I want to enjoy each one as much as possible..
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Post by Chris on Aug 27, 2017 16:25:46 GMT -8
Thank you Marilyn! It does make me feel better.
Don't you think that D&D went over their vision with GRRM before they started on their exodus? It does seem that GRRM might be changing some of his bits to be different from the show version of his story. Really looking forward to his next book....maybe. Tonight begins our long winter. I'm going to look at it this way. I have read the worst possible ending, so any ending better than the one I read will be a gift. I don't want any bitter, but I know that is unrealistic. We can now prepare for next season for the next year by realizing there will be some heartbreak involved.
I know several summer's ago David and Dan spent 2 or 3 weeks in Santa Fe talking to GRRM about his direction for the last 2 books. I know I read before Season 6 that D&D wanted to end the series close the the way the books are supposed to end. But they have made so many changes it may be impossible at this point to stay exactly the same and in the next 10 or 15 years GRRM may change his mind and go in a completely different direction.
Sadly, some time next year we will know the Series ending. At this point we have no idea when we will be reading the next 2 books. GRRM really does need to get busy writing the end of his epic tale. If he doesn't already he needs to remember his age.
I wish we could put off this last episode. I can't wait to see it, but I woke up sad this morning, knowing this was the finale for this year........
Once again it has been fun and a pleasure to spend it with old GoT friends!!
G.R.R.M. almost seems to be baiting everyone at this point, I don't think we will see the book really till after next season. I also think it will be a lot different story with a lets say similar ending, or maybe not, George seems a pretty vindictive person and if he was upset the way the Show went, he may do 90 degrees just to distance himself from what they did. He may wait till they are done and then do a re edit as well of his material. Kind of why you should not do a series without all the source material if your basing it on source material.
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